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to slash forty billion euros out of their deficit by next year as we've seen other nations that have taken the poison pill of austerity particularly greece these new spending cuts will only make the situation worse situation in spain is already so bad that the cataloging a region of spain called for an early election at the end of november which could be a vote for independence from spain altogether is the region runs into its own financial problems so where is all this leading to here for some answers is david marty activist member of the international organization for the participatory society in madrid chapter and co-author of the book fanfare for the future occupy strategy david welcome and thanks for joining us from madrid thanks for staying up late to talk with us throughout thank you for having me much appreciate it we've seen pretty violent protests in the streets of spain over the last few days how unstable is the country what reaction is there to and is it all a reaction in this new budget. if you tried to. see violence isn't instability miles would just only took place bet
to slash forty billion euros out of their deficit by next year as we've seen other nations that have taken the poison pill of austerity particularly greece these new spending cuts will only make the situation worse situation in spain is already so bad that the cataloging a region of spain called for an early election at the end of november which could be a vote for independence from spain altogether is the region runs into its own financial problems so where is all this leading to here for some...
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the fact of the matter is i have been working to bring down the deficit for years. it is very important we do it for the very reason that was stated about national security. let's examine the facts. my number one, too, and three priorities are creating jobs in the state of nevada. we help small businesses, make nevada the energy jobs capital of the united states, we create good paying jobs right here in the state of nevada, help our tourism industry create good paying jobs. my opponent does not do anything for middle income families. he does nothing to get people back to work. i am fighting day and night to make sure we get good paying jobs, that we keep people in their homes, that we protect medicare and social security. my opponent is voting for budget after budget that takes away and balances our budget on the backs of our senior citizens and our veterans. >> thank you. our next question is directed at senator heller. >> into 2011, you voted twice, once as a congressman and once at a senator, for a plan that would change the medicare program. could you explain yo
the fact of the matter is i have been working to bring down the deficit for years. it is very important we do it for the very reason that was stated about national security. let's examine the facts. my number one, too, and three priorities are creating jobs in the state of nevada. we help small businesses, make nevada the energy jobs capital of the united states, we create good paying jobs right here in the state of nevada, help our tourism industry create good paying jobs. my opponent does not...
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five was the budget deficit. so no one's minimizing the importance of the deficit but there really is not a program that deals with the other four and they are using extreme measures and cutting up various entitlements and americans that want to deal with the deficit. >> i think what happened in 2010 and democrats in a way allowed this to happen is that the republicans succeeded in making the deficit a central issue and a stand in for people's economic worries across the board. >> right. >> i think now it's much clearer to people that these two things are related but they are quite separate and there are moments when balancing the budget or cutting spending on things like schools and public safety can actually make unemployment worse. i think something else important has happened, which is the health care law was very unpopular on election day back then. the health care law is gaining ground. and they were demobilized, the democrats last time. they are not demobilized this time. >> they were strutting around, the
five was the budget deficit. so no one's minimizing the importance of the deficit but there really is not a program that deals with the other four and they are using extreme measures and cutting up various entitlements and americans that want to deal with the deficit. >> i think what happened in 2010 and democrats in a way allowed this to happen is that the republicans succeeded in making the deficit a central issue and a stand in for people's economic worries across the board. >>...
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if you want to talk about closing the debt, the deficit. allow fracking. frac away. by the way, there is nothing, never has been any proof of disease or anything -- >> greg: they tried it with breast cancer -- >> bob: i wasn't supposed to talk about the disease part. andrea made a good point. marellus shale runs from ohio, to upper new york state. our friend denny harton you met. friend from west virginia. he convinced me how safe fracking was. it's an important point. if you drive buss with natural gas, it seems you can drive anything with natural gas, right? >> bob: he told me we didn't have the infrastructure to carry natural gas. why not invest in infrastructure to carry natural gas? not have so much dependency on foreign oil. >> kimberly: welcome to the conservative party, bob beckel. >> andrea: can you spread that in your party >> eric: >> bob: when you have that much of an energy resource and you know it runs things, the only problem, of course, is that -- well, anyway. >> greg: k.g. -- >> kimberly: i'm for fracking all the way and anything that gives us energ
if you want to talk about closing the debt, the deficit. allow fracking. frac away. by the way, there is nothing, never has been any proof of disease or anything -- >> greg: they tried it with breast cancer -- >> bob: i wasn't supposed to talk about the disease part. andrea made a good point. marellus shale runs from ohio, to upper new york state. our friend denny harton you met. friend from west virginia. he convinced me how safe fracking was. it's an important point. if you drive...
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more jobs will slash that deficit. >>> our third story, another day, another bad set of numbers for mitt romney. there are two new polls today by the american research group and they have mitt romney trailing president obama in two more swing states. five points in new hampshire and two in virginia. although i wanted to highlight the virginia one. there had been other polls to show that gap wider. this would be a much better than expected result than some of the others we've seen. this week -- has not been kind to the republican candidate as polls have shown him falling behind the president. but he is not showing any change in confident. >> i've got a little secret here and that is that obama campaign thinks that pennsylvania is in their pocket. they don't need to worry about it. and you're right and they're wrong. we're going to win pennsylvania. we're going to take the white house. >> he's going to have to overcome a big deficit to do it, but people do like a comeback kid. max, jen, the obama campaign press secretary. two very different problems. one, you don't want to get complacent a
more jobs will slash that deficit. >>> our third story, another day, another bad set of numbers for mitt romney. there are two new polls today by the american research group and they have mitt romney trailing president obama in two more swing states. five points in new hampshire and two in virginia. although i wanted to highlight the virginia one. there had been other polls to show that gap wider. this would be a much better than expected result than some of the others we've seen. this...
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president obama said he would cut the deficit in half in his first term. he gave us $6 trillion in new obama debt, in four years. he called push unpatriotic and irresponsible for $4 trillion in debt in eight years. so why would we expect he's going to keep his promise on any of these things? >> well, sean, you and i know about this time four years ago the economy collapsed. it was the result, i believe, and the president believes, of failed policies of george bush. that's what he walked into. very different world than anything in the campaign. here's what he did. he walked into office. we were shedding 750,000 jobs a month. you know all this. >> sean: wait a minute. >> let me finish. now we've created 5 million jobs over four years. >> sean: that's not true. that's not true, sir. sir, there are fewer americans working than when he took office. that is a fact. you get it right from the bureau of labor and statistics. here's the point, when he ran in 2008 he said it's the worst economy since the great depression. he told it was bad. he said and projected tha
president obama said he would cut the deficit in half in his first term. he gave us $6 trillion in new obama debt, in four years. he called push unpatriotic and irresponsible for $4 trillion in debt in eight years. so why would we expect he's going to keep his promise on any of these things? >> well, sean, you and i know about this time four years ago the economy collapsed. it was the result, i believe, and the president believes, of failed policies of george bush. that's what he walked...
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. >> trillion dollar deficits. that debt is owned by somebody. someone holds that. that puts america in a position of economic risk. >> reporter: but even supporters are split on how romney can win this race. >> there is more fire in the belly. >> he needs to stick with the facts. it's all about the economy. >> reporter: more than half the country already started voting days before the first presidential debate. more numbers now. gallup is reporting the president's approval rating is sticking at 50%. and this could turn out to be his best month in a year. >> tracie potts for us in washington. thank you. >>> last night on the rachel madow show bill burton talked to racel about the impact or lack thereof super packs are having on the romney campaign. >> on the republican side, the story they tell about mitt romney is there is no story about mitt romney. the story they tell about barack obama is well he's always bad things. if you're trying to figure out well what is it that -- what's the strategy here? how are we trying to win this race? it's more difficult on their s
. >> trillion dollar deficits. that debt is owned by somebody. someone holds that. that puts america in a position of economic risk. >> reporter: but even supporters are split on how romney can win this race. >> there is more fire in the belly. >> he needs to stick with the facts. it's all about the economy. >> reporter: more than half the country already started voting days before the first presidential debate. more numbers now. gallup is reporting the president's...
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he says he will do three things, cut tax rates 20%, as you said, keep the budget deficit from getting larger, and protect the middle class from any tax increases. well, look, if you're going to cut taxes and you're going to be revenue neutral about it, that is not increase the budget deficit, that means somebody is going to have to pay more to offset the fact that somebody is paying less. >> and who is going to pay more? >> well, what mitt romney initially said was that we will just -- we'll get that from the top 1%. we'll get that from wealthy folks. well, that's where the arithmetic comes in. if you look at all of the deductions, you sum them all up, every single tax deduction going to those high-end folk, they don't make up the difference. it's not enough to offset the rate cuts. so you'd have to go to the middle class. >> okay. well, ryan and romney are fond of bragging about how they'll be tough on issues. once again we give you the candidate. >> we'll also take medicaid as well as housing and food stamps, we'll take the dollars that are going in those programs, return them to th
he says he will do three things, cut tax rates 20%, as you said, keep the budget deficit from getting larger, and protect the middle class from any tax increases. well, look, if you're going to cut taxes and you're going to be revenue neutral about it, that is not increase the budget deficit, that means somebody is going to have to pay more to offset the fact that somebody is paying less. >> and who is going to pay more? >> well, what mitt romney initially said was that we will just...
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it used to be obama was suffering a big deficit next to romney with that. since several weeks ago, probably tied to the conntion, those numbers have turned and brand with respect to the economy has become more popular than the republican brand. >> mourdock who has been a hardliner, he's been trying to embrace the moderate positions claiming he's more open to compromise, claiming he will protect social security and medicare. but this is not the same mourdock whoefd ar r hema. are richard lugar and others paying their price for the extremism? >> i would add to what sam said, part of the aftermath of 47%-gate. it's tough to make the argument you're best on the eco wn you think you should only be working for half of the people on the economy, right? that's how the comments were perceived. to your estion, ed, i want to ad this is not just having a ickle-do effect to other tees the only shot we have at electing a new woman governor is actually -- >> it's ticket-wide, no question. >> who shouldn't be in a neck and neck race, but is, because of what's going on nati
it used to be obama was suffering a big deficit next to romney with that. since several weeks ago, probably tied to the conntion, those numbers have turned and brand with respect to the economy has become more popular than the republican brand. >> mourdock who has been a hardliner, he's been trying to embrace the moderate positions claiming he's more open to compromise, claiming he will protect social security and medicare. but this is not the same mourdock whoefd ar r hema. are richard...
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which is that in the past, there been conversations about trouble with the deficit yet there with the ability to think about investing in young children and now grappling with that. we are dead a place where we as a society cannot think about it in a broader way because we are seeing a shrinking pie. that is a big problem to put out there. at the state level, there are -- because of the race to the top, early learning challenge grants have some really innovative and dynamic leaders. we have some states that are moving fairly quickly in a constrained environment. to be thinking about more children having access or at least setting up a stage so children will have access when things open up a little bit again. now we have almost a have not situation. educational opportunities depend on zip code. we are in the same place when it comes to young children, opportunities for their families, opportunities for early learning environment. there is more to say on the state front. i would encourage you to look at a previous event that david and i held, that is online, the video is archived. i wil
which is that in the past, there been conversations about trouble with the deficit yet there with the ability to think about investing in young children and now grappling with that. we are dead a place where we as a society cannot think about it in a broader way because we are seeing a shrinking pie. that is a big problem to put out there. at the state level, there are -- because of the race to the top, early learning challenge grants have some really innovative and dynamic leaders. we have...
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mitt romney should be pushing hard on this question of government spending, debt, deficits and make this much more of an idealogical argument, an idealogical case against the president. he is a big government liberal. he expanded government at every turn. he will expand government further in his second term. gregg: want to put one more graphic poll up for you. most voters, 73%, say they're aware of the 47% comment notoriously made by governor mitt romney. but look at this, 63% think he is right when he argues that too many people in america are dependent on the government. you have to add two numbers together. mostly true, 36%. somewhat true, 27%. might that actually help him instead of what the pundits and democrats predicted which was it was was going to hurt him? >> it's hard to say. there is other polling show the 47% comments have hurt him. i think the problem was mitt romney kind of tripped in that argument. he made an argument that had problems with it. there were inaccuracies in the specific charges he was making but i think it is indisputable his broader case is true. i think th
mitt romney should be pushing hard on this question of government spending, debt, deficits and make this much more of an idealogical argument, an idealogical case against the president. he is a big government liberal. he expanded government at every turn. he will expand government further in his second term. gregg: want to put one more graphic poll up for you. most voters, 73%, say they're aware of the 47% comment notoriously made by governor mitt romney. but look at this, 63% think he is right...
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to many countries face of falling investment, rising food prices and bigger trade deficits. but it's completely wrong to suggest that the arab spurring has created these problems. it's a challenging time for the world economy as a whole and there won't be a transformation overnight because far from being successful, open market-based economies by the vested interests, corruption and institutions, and if you like created a double problem not just fragile economies but people were told their experience free enterprise markets what that experience nothing of the sort so we must help these countries unwind the legacy of endemic corruption. another three expenditure they can't afford. natural resources unfairly exploited and they suffered under for too long. while i'm on the subject of the stolen essence, we also have a responsibility to help these countries get back the stolen assets that are rightfully theirs just as we returned billions of dollars of assets to libya. it's not good enough the egyptian people continue to be denied these assets long after mubarak is gone and i'm
to many countries face of falling investment, rising food prices and bigger trade deficits. but it's completely wrong to suggest that the arab spurring has created these problems. it's a challenging time for the world economy as a whole and there won't be a transformation overnight because far from being successful, open market-based economies by the vested interests, corruption and institutions, and if you like created a double problem not just fragile economies but people were told their...
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all those same polls that show president obama leading and claims to correct the bias, turning romney deficits into commanding romney leads. the idea behind it is simple. all polls base the outcome on what pollsters believe the electorate will look like, how many democrats versus how many republicans they think will actually turn out. getting that partisan makeup wrong can tilt the predictions. the people that don't believe the polls say this time, pollsters think the 2012 electorate will look a lot like 2008 and this they say is wrong. notice i said this time. back in 2004, democrats complained that the polls which showed george w. bush leading were overestimating the number of republicans who would vote. they were wrong. the polls were right. now, in 2000 al gore said don't believe the polls. polls showed him losing narrowly. polls were right. in fact, it's hard to find an example of the polls on average getting it wrong unless you go back to 1948, when they predicted thomas dewey defeated president harry truman. cnn political contributor ari fleischer joins us. he's an occasional unpaid com
all those same polls that show president obama leading and claims to correct the bias, turning romney deficits into commanding romney leads. the idea behind it is simple. all polls base the outcome on what pollsters believe the electorate will look like, how many democrats versus how many republicans they think will actually turn out. getting that partisan makeup wrong can tilt the predictions. the people that don't believe the polls say this time, pollsters think the 2012 electorate will look...
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tell you that that is just not the kind of inconsistency that he can afford at this point given the deficits he faces. >> your thoughts, john. >> well, look, chris, i just think he's in an untenable position, and he has been all along. the bottom line on mitt romney is he's proud of his massachusetts health care law. there's part of him that wants to defend it, there's part of him that's always wanted to defend it, and he found himself running in a republican primary where he couldn't defend it as forthrightly as i think what his heart would have wanted to do. so he twisted himself up in a lot of knots. i think there's some theoretical way in which you could make a federalist argument, but he hasn't made that argument consistently either. he should have stood up and said the individual mandate is a conservative policy. it was invented at the heritage foundation and embraced by conservatives as recently as a decade ago. he could have made the argument for health care and said that's what the conservative position was. he didn't have the guts to do that. he's ended up in this bizarre position
tell you that that is just not the kind of inconsistency that he can afford at this point given the deficits he faces. >> your thoughts, john. >> well, look, chris, i just think he's in an untenable position, and he has been all along. the bottom line on mitt romney is he's proud of his massachusetts health care law. there's part of him that wants to defend it, there's part of him that's always wanted to defend it, and he found himself running in a republican primary where he...
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those who believe we want bigger government, more intrusive government, trillion dollar deficits as far as the eye can see will vote for him. those who believe we should encourage economic growth, support small business, and create more jobs will vote for me. >> that first debate will take place next wednesday night in denver. >>> president obama is urging patience when it comes to this country's economic recovery. he spoke of what he calls an economic patriotism during a rally yesterday in virginia beach. >> an economic patriotism rooted in the belief that growing our economy belongs with a strong and thriving middle class. i won't pretend that getting there is easy. the truth is it's going to take a few more years to solve challenges that we're building up over decades. but i want everybody here to understand our problems can be solved. our challenges will be met. >> the president will hold a campaign event today here in washington. >>> one person is dead after a wrong way crash in stafford, virginia. the accident happened around 4:30 yesterday along route 17 near stafford lakes parkw
those who believe we want bigger government, more intrusive government, trillion dollar deficits as far as the eye can see will vote for him. those who believe we should encourage economic growth, support small business, and create more jobs will vote for me. >> that first debate will take place next wednesday night in denver. >>> president obama is urging patience when it comes to this country's economic recovery. he spoke of what he calls an economic patriotism during a rally...
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part of the budget reform hike taxes on the wealthy to reduce france's deficit amidst all of. calling for 7 a% tax on the super rich. aruba, sweden and denmark and netherlands have the highest tax rates between 50 and 60%. u.s. caps income tax rates currently at much lower 35%. critics say france's proposed hikes will back fire by putter hurting businesses. police in canada busted three men, including one current and one former police officer for smuggling cheese and other foods across the border cost more in canada than the lower 48. suspects bought $200,000 of the stuff buffalo, new york. drove some 22 miles into canada without declaring it to customs. sold it to canadian restaurants and made more than $165,000 in profit. off cheese. one day after israel's prime minister netanyahu drew a red line. he spoke about the iranian nuclear threat. we will have details from both phone calls. word of another football bounty scandal. but not in the nfl this time. peewee wait until you hear this. bob... oh, hey alex. just picking up some, brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speec
part of the budget reform hike taxes on the wealthy to reduce france's deficit amidst all of. calling for 7 a% tax on the super rich. aruba, sweden and denmark and netherlands have the highest tax rates between 50 and 60%. u.s. caps income tax rates currently at much lower 35%. critics say france's proposed hikes will back fire by putter hurting businesses. police in canada busted three men, including one current and one former police officer for smuggling cheese and other foods across the...
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that's not a recipe for growth and we can reduce our deficit, including making some smart decisions on medicare in particular, where we're focused on lowering health care costs by reforming how health care is delivered but we don't need to be voucherizing the system to dump those costs on to seniors because, frankly, they can't afford it right now. >> pelley: there is a lot of rhetoric about medicare. what do you intend to do? >> well, i don't want any change to medicare for current seniors or for those that are nearing retirement. so the plan stays exactly same. >> pelley: make sure i understand. the idea under your plan for future seniors would be that the federal government would write that senior a check, essentially and say "now, you can go buy a private insurance plan or you can buy medicare from the federal government"? >> s that essentially it? >> that's essentially it. people would have a choice of either traditional government-run fee-for-service medicare or a private plan which has to offer the same benefits. it can't be skinnyed down. >> pelley: will the check that comes fr
that's not a recipe for growth and we can reduce our deficit, including making some smart decisions on medicare in particular, where we're focused on lowering health care costs by reforming how health care is delivered but we don't need to be voucherizing the system to dump those costs on to seniors because, frankly, they can't afford it right now. >> pelley: there is a lot of rhetoric about medicare. what do you intend to do? >> well, i don't want any change to medicare for current...
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. >> he was going to use that money to reduce the budget deficit. i'm putting it back into medicare and i'm the guy running for president. >> well, what a miserable time he has. all he does is defend himself against paul ryan's budget and he put the guy on the ticket. >> chris, i remember when this happened. when you put ryan on the ticket, a lot of democrats said, okay, it's over, we've got it. and i was skeptical about that when they said it, and i think a lot of us who like to hear intellectual debates about policy said, great, fwring it on, let's have a big debate about the philosophy of government. down in florida they don't care about the fill loss pi. >> all politics a local. >> they want the program, they like the program, don't mess with the program. >> let's go to something really big because i like this guy so much. this is jim webb who is retiring as the senator from virginia. he's a democrat but a different kind of democrat. many people, including me, believe he's eviscerated romney with these words he spoke. remember what romney was sa
. >> he was going to use that money to reduce the budget deficit. i'm putting it back into medicare and i'm the guy running for president. >> well, what a miserable time he has. all he does is defend himself against paul ryan's budget and he put the guy on the ticket. >> chris, i remember when this happened. when you put ryan on the ticket, a lot of democrats said, okay, it's over, we've got it. and i was skeptical about that when they said it, and i think a lot of us who like...
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sides of the deficit equation. also revenue, by closing some of these loopholes and tax breaks. >> [indiscernible] >> [inaudible] >> i was disappointed that the super committee was not able to get this job done. the impedimenta and then, as it continues to be now, this absolute refusal on the part of republicans in the house to agree to any component as part of the deficit reduction deal. they refused ask the wealthiest americans to contribute one penny more to reducing the deficit. the more time goes on, the more their position becomes not only on justifiable but unsustainable. -- unjustifiable but unsustainable. as we get closer to the edge of the cliff, it will become clear to the american people that what they are willing to go over the cliff, allow middle-class taxpayers to go over the cliff unless they get tax relief for people mitt romney. their position is becoming clear to the american people and untenable. >> let me add to that. a year ago, the republicans held hostage raising the debt ceiling which would
sides of the deficit equation. also revenue, by closing some of these loopholes and tax breaks. >> [indiscernible] >> [inaudible] >> i was disappointed that the super committee was not able to get this job done. the impedimenta and then, as it continues to be now, this absolute refusal on the part of republicans in the house to agree to any component as part of the deficit reduction deal. they refused ask the wealthiest americans to contribute one penny more to reducing the...
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and most americans don't believe you have to touch medicare to take care of the deficit or the debt. >> listen, it's a numbers issue right? i'm a numbers guy. used to be 40 years ago that you had two people in america working to pay for every one retiree. now it's basically, you know, one worker paying for 10 to 20 different retirees because we've got this horrific demographic shift, 7500 people turning 60 every day. you're right. the numbers are unsustainable. what was interesting about your chart was this. i'll tell you what. the president is glad the election is only 39 days away. because yesterday kind of quietly, i don't want to get wonky, we had dismal economic data. we referenced it at the top. durable goods was terrible. boeing sold only one aircraft in august. gdp was revised down. 25% of people, i can't remember the source of the poll, basically said they'll slow down spending because of the fiscal cliff issue. things are slowing down because people, smart viewers of "morning joe" and cnbc know that we're going to get the biggest tax hike in history if congress doesn't do s
and most americans don't believe you have to touch medicare to take care of the deficit or the debt. >> listen, it's a numbers issue right? i'm a numbers guy. used to be 40 years ago that you had two people in america working to pay for every one retiree. now it's basically, you know, one worker paying for 10 to 20 different retirees because we've got this horrific demographic shift, 7500 people turning 60 every day. you're right. the numbers are unsustainable. what was interesting about...